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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://www.janefancher.com/TheCaptainAndLime/2009/10/30/3-days-4-trips/comment-page-1/#comment-1747</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooo...neat. A full hour of recorded rain (as opposed to the fractal sound generators) might actually work. I can&#039;t use music. I love listening to it too much, and it keeps me awake. The switch cost only a couple of dollars, but the gas going back and forth easily doubled the price! Fortunately, any trip from this house to Lowes is a multi-purpose operation! Oh...drugs for sleep don&#039;t help me at all. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooo&#8230;neat. A full hour of recorded rain (as opposed to the fractal sound generators) might actually work. I can&#8217;t use music. I love listening to it too much, and it keeps me awake. The switch cost only a couple of dollars, but the gas going back and forth easily doubled the price! Fortunately, any trip from this house to Lowes is a multi-purpose operation! Oh&#8230;drugs for sleep don&#8217;t help me at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://www.janefancher.com/TheCaptainAndLime/2009/10/30/3-days-4-trips/comment-page-1/#comment-1746</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would think spousal units would definitely be into them! Sharing a bed with toasty little Efanor is hard (or hot) enough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think spousal units would definitely be into them! Sharing a bed with toasty little Efanor is hard (or hot) enough!</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://www.janefancher.com/TheCaptainAndLime/2009/10/30/3-days-4-trips/comment-page-1/#comment-1745</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The stupid thing for me was, it didn&#039;t wiggle off, I just forgot that it was being held up by the collar! I undid the collar and&lt;em&gt; bang.&lt;/em&gt; I have two different kinds of mounts I&#039;ve encountered. The silly hook and a nice complete collar that supports the fan under the decorative collar. I thought this one was the second kind. Ahem. I was wrong.

I became addicted to ceiling fans when I moved to OKC. The one in question has been with me through three moves. I have crackle-finish black oriental furniture in my bedroom and this is a really nice, fairly simple black and gold with white oriental-style light shades. I think it&#039;s a Hunter. Whatever, it&#039;s a good fan. I think I&#039;ll go into mourning if it ever dies for real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stupid thing for me was, it didn&#8217;t wiggle off, I just forgot that it was being held up by the collar! I undid the collar and<em> bang.</em> I have two different kinds of mounts I&#8217;ve encountered. The silly hook and a nice complete collar that supports the fan under the decorative collar. I thought this one was the second kind. Ahem. I was wrong.</p>
<p>I became addicted to ceiling fans when I moved to OKC. The one in question has been with me through three moves. I have crackle-finish black oriental furniture in my bedroom and this is a really nice, fairly simple black and gold with white oriental-style light shades. I think it&#8217;s a Hunter. Whatever, it&#8217;s a good fan. I think I&#8217;ll go into mourning if it ever dies for real.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://www.janefancher.com/TheCaptainAndLime/2009/10/30/3-days-4-trips/comment-page-1/#comment-1744</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a hot water bottle, too. Its name is Efanor! :biggrin:  I&#039;m nuts. I keep the fan going for the air movement and the sound, then I bury myself under the two quilts and my cat. When it gets really cold, I put on socks that invariably get ditched before morning.

Didn&#039;t touch the header. :biggrin:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a hot water bottle, too. Its name is Efanor! <img src='http://www.janefancher.com/TheCaptainAndLime/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/Nomicons v2.0/grin.png' alt=':biggrin:' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;m nuts. I keep the fan going for the air movement and the sound, then I bury myself under the two quilts and my cat. When it gets really cold, I put on socks that invariably get ditched before morning.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t touch the header. <img src='http://www.janefancher.com/TheCaptainAndLime/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/Nomicons v2.0/grin.png' alt=':biggrin:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://www.janefancher.com/TheCaptainAndLime/2009/10/30/3-days-4-trips/comment-page-1/#comment-1743</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You come across as sweet and kind, not pompous at all! But smilies are fun! I wish I could get a program that would let me use the kitty emos instead, but I haven&#039;t. (Actually, I guess they&#039;re called &quot;onionheads&quot; but they look like kitties to me!)

Re: the posts.  Thanks! I try. Carolyn is truly amazing at this vignette thing. I write long posts which I edit spottily; she can pack serious entertainment into a single paragraph that she dashes off in a few minutes! And usually, by the time I get around to posting, she&#039;s already handled the crazy day moments better than I could ever hope to. Love her rendition of yesterday&#039;s powerline saga. I keep telling myself that she&#039;s had a lot more years of practice, but after twenty years of writing, that excuse is getting pretty thin. I think she&#039;s just that good.

I wish Lynn would get on the stick and start posting (in all her copious spare time). She&#039;s much more cautious about editing before posting, but she&#039;s done some hysterical pieces for emails, that I don&#039;t think ever made it online. She&#039;s a NewYorker born and bred who has relocated to Florida to be near her folks and her observations on her new home are ...wonderfully unique.

We were very sorry to lose little Rukia. She was turning into a very pretty little fish. Carolyn feels it particularly, because she&#039;s the one who noticed the odd behavior, thought about pulling her, then hesitated until checking on the internet. I was blissfully ignorant.

OTOH, thank goodness for the internet! I&#039;m sure that won&#039;t be the last time the situation comes up and now we know what to do. I don&#039;t know why that little piece of info isn&#039;t in every pond/koi-raising help site, but thank goodness someone had it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You come across as sweet and kind, not pompous at all! But smilies are fun! I wish I could get a program that would let me use the kitty emos instead, but I haven&#8217;t. (Actually, I guess they&#8217;re called &#8220;onionheads&#8221; but they look like kitties to me!)</p>
<p>Re: the posts.  Thanks! I try. Carolyn is truly amazing at this vignette thing. I write long posts which I edit spottily; she can pack serious entertainment into a single paragraph that she dashes off in a few minutes! And usually, by the time I get around to posting, she&#8217;s already handled the crazy day moments better than I could ever hope to. Love her rendition of yesterday&#8217;s powerline saga. I keep telling myself that she&#8217;s had a lot more years of practice, but after twenty years of writing, that excuse is getting pretty thin. I think she&#8217;s just that good.</p>
<p>I wish Lynn would get on the stick and start posting (in all her copious spare time). She&#8217;s much more cautious about editing before posting, but she&#8217;s done some hysterical pieces for emails, that I don&#8217;t think ever made it online. She&#8217;s a NewYorker born and bred who has relocated to Florida to be near her folks and her observations on her new home are &#8230;wonderfully unique.</p>
<p>We were very sorry to lose little Rukia. She was turning into a very pretty little fish. Carolyn feels it particularly, because she&#8217;s the one who noticed the odd behavior, thought about pulling her, then hesitated until checking on the internet. I was blissfully ignorant.</p>
<p>OTOH, thank goodness for the internet! I&#8217;m sure that won&#8217;t be the last time the situation comes up and now we know what to do. I don&#8217;t know why that little piece of info isn&#8217;t in every pond/koi-raising help site, but thank goodness someone had it.</p>
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		<title>By: smartcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>smartcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rarely have problems sleeping but, when I do I listen to Bach, especially Art of Fugue, Goldberg Variations, or Musical Offering. Following and separating the parts sends me right off.

Hanneke, to add the smileys just click on the one you want.  It will show in your message as a description with colons on either side.  Once you hit &quot;submit comment&quot; it will post as a face.

Jane, I noted to CJ but will to you as well......I think you must live in a special part of Washington with a time zone that has several more hours than the usual 24 the rest of us have.

Regrets for the little koi.

A friend took his grandkids fishing...came back with a box turtle and a bass...grandson released bass into fishpond....bass proceeded to eat ALL the koi and other pretty fish and is now living down under the plants....must be finding enough to eat as from glimpses caught appears  to be growing....and is way too wiley to be caught.  MORAL: DO NOT PUT BASS IN YOUR FISH POND! :ermm:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rarely have problems sleeping but, when I do I listen to Bach, especially Art of Fugue, Goldberg Variations, or Musical Offering. Following and separating the parts sends me right off.</p>
<p>Hanneke, to add the smileys just click on the one you want.  It will show in your message as a description with colons on either side.  Once you hit &#8220;submit comment&#8221; it will post as a face.</p>
<p>Jane, I noted to CJ but will to you as well&#8230;&#8230;I think you must live in a special part of Washington with a time zone that has several more hours than the usual 24 the rest of us have.</p>
<p>Regrets for the little koi.</p>
<p>A friend took his grandkids fishing&#8230;came back with a box turtle and a bass&#8230;grandson released bass into fishpond&#8230;.bass proceeded to eat ALL the koi and other pretty fish and is now living down under the plants&#8230;.must be finding enough to eat as from glimpses caught appears  to be growing&#8230;.and is way too wiley to be caught.  MORAL: DO NOT PUT BASS IN YOUR FISH POND! <img src='http://www.janefancher.com/TheCaptainAndLime/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/Nomicons v2.0/ermm.png' alt=':ermm:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hanneke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hanneke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I still can&#039;t get the hang of adding smileys. You&#039;ve even provided them ready-made, and I tried to drag them into the post above, and it just caused strange links to appear. I tend to sound long-winded, heavy-handed and pompous when I read my own posts, and thought a smile might help declare that it&#039;s lightly meant.
I must say, after trying to contribute my two-cents-worth occasionally here, I&#039;ve developed even greater admiration for the way you and CJ write. That books which are polished and edited before we get to see them can be very well written is an admirable talent, but you even manage it in something as ephemeral as a blog - it&#039;s interesting, funny, sometimes exiting or suspenseful, or sad (I was sorry to hear about the littlest koi), and somehow you always manage to give it the right touch so that it&#039;s a pleasure to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I still can&#8217;t get the hang of adding smileys. You&#8217;ve even provided them ready-made, and I tried to drag them into the post above, and it just caused strange links to appear. I tend to sound long-winded, heavy-handed and pompous when I read my own posts, and thought a smile might help declare that it&#8217;s lightly meant.<br />
I must say, after trying to contribute my two-cents-worth occasionally here, I&#8217;ve developed even greater admiration for the way you and CJ write. That books which are polished and edited before we get to see them can be very well written is an admirable talent, but you even manage it in something as ephemeral as a blog &#8211; it&#8217;s interesting, funny, sometimes exiting or suspenseful, or sad (I was sorry to hear about the littlest koi), and somehow you always manage to give it the right touch so that it&#8217;s a pleasure to read.</p>
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		<title>By: Hanneke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hanneke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jane, did you fix the blogsite-header as well as the ceiling fan? It looks fine right now, on the laptop with the slow phone modem at home, in Mozilla Firefox. I can even see the link to the Pub. Or is the fault in the old IE and screens at my workplace?
By the way, did you see my ridiculously long posting in the Pub? I put it there because it didn&#039;t belong in a thread, it&#039;s not very interesting for anyone else, and you can remove it after you&#039;ve seen it. I&#039;m going to 3D-paper-pictures-class again on monday evening, and if the oriental-elements one I found is not to your taste I can return it.

Isn&#039;t it cold, sleeping with the fan on in autumn or winter, where you live now? I recollect hearing about lots of snow, and you two not heating the house much - add a breeze in your bedroom and I&#039;d expect to be shivering and constantly plagued by colds &amp; such. Even without a fan, and with hardly any snow most winters, I like my hotwaterbottle in bed as soon as it gets colder. :blush: And then you go skating in a cold ice rink for a hobby! I admire the energy you have, to do all these things and stay warm as well, but however do you manage? :wassat:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jane, did you fix the blogsite-header as well as the ceiling fan? It looks fine right now, on the laptop with the slow phone modem at home, in Mozilla Firefox. I can even see the link to the Pub. Or is the fault in the old IE and screens at my workplace?<br />
By the way, did you see my ridiculously long posting in the Pub? I put it there because it didn&#8217;t belong in a thread, it&#8217;s not very interesting for anyone else, and you can remove it after you&#8217;ve seen it. I&#8217;m going to 3D-paper-pictures-class again on monday evening, and if the oriental-elements one I found is not to your taste I can return it.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it cold, sleeping with the fan on in autumn or winter, where you live now? I recollect hearing about lots of snow, and you two not heating the house much &#8211; add a breeze in your bedroom and I&#8217;d expect to be shivering and constantly plagued by colds &amp; such. Even without a fan, and with hardly any snow most winters, I like my hotwaterbottle in bed as soon as it gets colder. <img src='http://www.janefancher.com/TheCaptainAndLime/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/Nomicons v2.0/blush.png' alt=':blush:' class='wp-smiley' /> And then you go skating in a cold ice rink for a hobby! I admire the energy you have, to do all these things and stay warm as well, but however do you manage? <img src='http://www.janefancher.com/TheCaptainAndLime/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/Nomicons v2.0/wassat.png' alt=':wassat:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: chondrite</title>
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		<dc:creator>chondrite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have gone through 3 standalone fans before I finally got around to installing a ceiling fan in the bedroom.  Yes, I believe it is obligatory that the fan will wiggle off the annoying little hook they give you to hold the motor while you fiddle with wires.  The first time it happened in the living room, fortunately I had just finished with the wires, and they held it up long enough for me to jam it back onto the hook.  The second time, I was in the bedroom, and it bounced on the mattress, luckily missing me.

We set the a/c on 78 or so on timer for 3-4 hours, then let the fan keep us cool the rest of the night.  Works pretty well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have gone through 3 standalone fans before I finally got around to installing a ceiling fan in the bedroom.  Yes, I believe it is obligatory that the fan will wiggle off the annoying little hook they give you to hold the motor while you fiddle with wires.  The first time it happened in the living room, fortunately I had just finished with the wires, and they held it up long enough for me to jam it back onto the hook.  The second time, I was in the bedroom, and it bounced on the mattress, luckily missing me.</p>
<p>We set the a/c on 78 or so on timer for 3-4 hours, then let the fan keep us cool the rest of the night.  Works pretty well.</p>
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		<title>By: kokipy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kokipy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so with you on the ceiling fan at night thing. My spouse says, Oh, you have the fan on? ugh. But having it on all night all year round is the difference between comfort and discomfort. worth any effort to get it to work right. It has to be quiet, and efficient. good luck with that. And good sleeping!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so with you on the ceiling fan at night thing. My spouse says, Oh, you have the fan on? ugh. But having it on all night all year round is the difference between comfort and discomfort. worth any effort to get it to work right. It has to be quiet, and efficient. good luck with that. And good sleeping!</p>
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