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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://www.janefancher.com/TheCaptainAndLime/2009/05/14/you-guys-are-great/comment-page-1/#comment-521</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 05:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carolyn says: people studying dinosaurs should look at the nervous system of corporations! :D I can&#039;t top that!

I take it Bea is rather like my Efanor. Twenty pounds of fuzzy love. Can&#039;t beat it. :D

Poor little guy! How frustrating! Sometimes, not even layers are proof against that (witness my public humiliation on the Faery cover! :D) So glad the Bamboo worked out. I have to admit, I&#039;ve never used Paint. I do believe that Sketcher supports layers, though I haven&#039;t used them. It&#039;s kind of a funky interface, though. Not a bad thing to learn, as it&#039;s a lot like Corel Painter and is designed to be used with the boards, but if he&#039;s used to the standard menu style, he might be happier with another program.

If I were getting him one, I think I&#039;d get Paint Shop Pro. The new CS4 just has &lt;em&gt;too many &lt;/em&gt;options. Paint Shop Pro is &lt;em&gt;much&lt;/em&gt; cheaper (under $100) and darned near as powerful. Maybe even PSP7, if I could find it. PSP 7 (or 8) supports layers and textures and transformations, but is just a bit simpler in some of the options. The newest version is, like CS4, a bit funky about the settings on the brushes.  I&#039;m not sure about some of those in between. I&#039;ve usually got PSP 5 available as well. I love the program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carolyn says: people studying dinosaurs should look at the nervous system of corporations! :D I can&#8217;t top that!</p>
<p>I take it Bea is rather like my Efanor. Twenty pounds of fuzzy love. Can&#8217;t beat it. :D</p>
<p>Poor little guy! How frustrating! Sometimes, not even layers are proof against that (witness my public humiliation on the Faery cover! :D) So glad the Bamboo worked out. I have to admit, I&#8217;ve never used Paint. I do believe that Sketcher supports layers, though I haven&#8217;t used them. It&#8217;s kind of a funky interface, though. Not a bad thing to learn, as it&#8217;s a lot like Corel Painter and is designed to be used with the boards, but if he&#8217;s used to the standard menu style, he might be happier with another program.</p>
<p>If I were getting him one, I think I&#8217;d get Paint Shop Pro. The new CS4 just has <em>too many </em>options. Paint Shop Pro is <em>much</em> cheaper (under $100) and darned near as powerful. Maybe even PSP7, if I could find it. PSP 7 (or 8) supports layers and textures and transformations, but is just a bit simpler in some of the options. The newest version is, like CS4, a bit funky about the settings on the brushes.  I&#8217;m not sure about some of those in between. I&#8217;ve usually got PSP 5 available as well. I love the program.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 03:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, three, but each heavy as, well my son&#039;s cat Bea :) No way I lug one of those around in a computer bag - it&#039;s definitely backpack time.

Of course, with typical corporate shortsightedness, they got me a total of five of the highest quality laptops and five of the highest desktops from Dell 18 months ago, but can&#039;t seem to come up with some of the middleware (messaging software) and graphics packages that I need for the demo these were purchased to produce :(.

BTW, younger son loved the Bamboo and made a Mother&#039;s day card using it. Lesson there - Paint is definitely a tool for frustration. Since it only has the single layer, any text is immediately applied to the bitmapped image and can&#039;t be edited. Poor kid had to go back and add in a couple missing letters by hand. We&#039;ll be trying one of the programs you recommended pretty soon, Jane. Thanks again for the advice.

- S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, three, but each heavy as, well my son&#8217;s cat Bea :) No way I lug one of those around in a computer bag &#8211; it&#8217;s definitely backpack time.</p>
<p>Of course, with typical corporate shortsightedness, they got me a total of five of the highest quality laptops and five of the highest desktops from Dell 18 months ago, but can&#8217;t seem to come up with some of the middleware (messaging software) and graphics packages that I need for the demo these were purchased to produce :(.</p>
<p>BTW, younger son loved the Bamboo and made a Mother&#8217;s day card using it. Lesson there &#8211; Paint is definitely a tool for frustration. Since it only has the single layer, any text is immediately applied to the bitmapped image and can&#8217;t be edited. Poor kid had to go back and add in a couple missing letters by hand. We&#8217;ll be trying one of the programs you recommended pretty soon, Jane. Thanks again for the advice.</p>
<p>- S</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 04:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THREEEE!!!!  Color me green!!!

I know what you mean. I didn&#039;t know it would be so simple!  just don&#039;t have time to play with it right now. Darn it. :D But it&#039;s really a nice set of basic computing elements. I&#039;m probably going to have to wait until fall, but it was certainly useful for this problem.

I still want to try that German program. We&#039;re trying to get some things done before we go to MisCon this weekend, but I might commandeer Carolyn to do some translation for me when we get back...just because. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THREEEE!!!!  Color me green!!!</p>
<p>I know what you mean. I didn&#8217;t know it would be so simple!  just don&#8217;t have time to play with it right now. Darn it. :D But it&#8217;s really a nice set of basic computing elements. I&#8217;m probably going to have to wait until fall, but it was certainly useful for this problem.</p>
<p>I still want to try that German program. We&#8217;re trying to get some things done before we go to MisCon this weekend, but I might commandeer Carolyn to do some translation for me when we get back&#8230;just because. :D</p>
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		<title>By: Sandor</title>
		<link>http://www.janefancher.com/TheCaptainAndLime/2009/05/14/you-guys-are-great/comment-page-1/#comment-499</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 03:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admit that seeing the link to ubuntu did it for me: i&#039;ve now downloaded and plan to install on one of the &quot;spare&quot; computers. I wonder how well it would work on a Dell laptop? I have three high powered Dell laptops sitting in a drawer at work that need a workout!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admit that seeing the link to ubuntu did it for me: i&#8217;ve now downloaded and plan to install on one of the &#8220;spare&#8221; computers. I wonder how well it would work on a Dell laptop? I have three high powered Dell laptops sitting in a drawer at work that need a workout!</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 23:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem! And when Ubuntu couldn&#039;t find the printer last night, that did pretty much seal the deal, as they say. I&#039;m really glad to have that alternate OS as an option. I didn&#039;t realize how easy it was to have it. As you say, narrows the options dramatically.

I never seriously consider the hammer option. :D Though there are a few programs I&#039;d happily fry! :D Nero worked fine. I&#039;m going to try Felicia when I find where the download went! That was very strange. I&#039;m sure I downloaded it...I have the manual right where I thought the file was...oh, well. If that&#039;s the only thing I&#039;ve lost, I&#039;m doing pretty good! :D

Whoops! Phone rang. OSGuy had come to pick up our bridge span planks to cut them with his father&#039;s band saw. Better scoot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem! And when Ubuntu couldn&#8217;t find the printer last night, that did pretty much seal the deal, as they say. I&#8217;m really glad to have that alternate OS as an option. I didn&#8217;t realize how easy it was to have it. As you say, narrows the options dramatically.</p>
<p>I never seriously consider the hammer option. :D Though there are a few programs I&#8217;d happily fry! :D Nero worked fine. I&#8217;m going to try Felicia when I find where the download went! That was very strange. I&#8217;m sure I downloaded it&#8230;I have the manual right where I thought the file was&#8230;oh, well. If that&#8217;s the only thing I&#8217;ve lost, I&#8217;m doing pretty good! :D</p>
<p>Whoops! Phone rang. OSGuy had come to pick up our bridge span planks to cut them with his father&#8217;s band saw. Better scoot!</p>
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		<title>By: TechSlave</title>
		<link>http://www.janefancher.com/TheCaptainAndLime/2009/05/14/you-guys-are-great/comment-page-1/#comment-486</link>
		<dc:creator>TechSlave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 07:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was hoping the Linux option would work - with the kind o&#039; problem you&#039;re facing, I default to &quot;Try another OS&quot;, just as I default to &quot;You have another computer? Try it!&quot; when someone calls up and can&#039;t get on the internet. It just eliminates a host of possibilities and narrows things down directly to software or hardware.

I hope you took a break, regained an even keel, and resisted the urge to &#039;troubleshoot with a hammer&#039;.

Sorry, have limited access to inter-webs @ work and couldn&#039;t reply. Lots of freeware, a lot of it decent -Roxio as Jcrow9 mentioned, and there&#039;s Nero, which I&#039;ve used before successfully, though I&#039;ve run into occasional issues. I know the PC-madness is super painful. I hope you get up, walk away, and do some relaxing when you need to. It makes a huge difference, when you hit that tech-induced headache wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was hoping the Linux option would work &#8211; with the kind o&#8217; problem you&#8217;re facing, I default to &#8220;Try another OS&#8221;, just as I default to &#8220;You have another computer? Try it!&#8221; when someone calls up and can&#8217;t get on the internet. It just eliminates a host of possibilities and narrows things down directly to software or hardware.</p>
<p>I hope you took a break, regained an even keel, and resisted the urge to &#8216;troubleshoot with a hammer&#8217;.</p>
<p>Sorry, have limited access to inter-webs @ work and couldn&#8217;t reply. Lots of freeware, a lot of it decent -Roxio as Jcrow9 mentioned, and there&#8217;s Nero, which I&#8217;ve used before successfully, though I&#8217;ve run into occasional issues. I know the PC-madness is super painful. I hope you get up, walk away, and do some relaxing when you need to. It makes a huge difference, when you hit that tech-induced headache wall.</p>
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		<title>By: Aja Jin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aja Jin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve used Ubuntu to a limited extent and found it quite easy to install and picked up the old funky hardware on the PC I used (canon scanner, cheap-o ebay wireless card, etc). Updates seem to work very well (just did in-place upgrade to the latest version)

Not as good or easy as my Mac, but great on an older system, and both of them beat the heck out of Windows in every way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used Ubuntu to a limited extent and found it quite easy to install and picked up the old funky hardware on the PC I used (canon scanner, cheap-o ebay wireless card, etc). Updates seem to work very well (just did in-place upgrade to the latest version)</p>
<p>Not as good or easy as my Mac, but great on an older system, and both of them beat the heck out of Windows in every way.</p>
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		<title>By: Jcrow9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jcrow9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane, Roxio Basic does a decent job and is frequently found in the shovelware.  I second Tech&#039;s suggestion of forcing a slower-than-max burn speed to improve disk quality.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, Roxio Basic does a decent job and is frequently found in the shovelware.  I second Tech&#8217;s suggestion of forcing a slower-than-max burn speed to improve disk quality.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://www.janefancher.com/TheCaptainAndLime/2009/05/14/you-guys-are-great/comment-page-1/#comment-474</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great! I&#039;ve been tempted by Linux before. This is going to push me over the edge. And thanks for the tip/warning on burning. I&#039;d have just blithely used Nero.

I wasn&#039;t sure what you meant by an ISO burning software. Went out (briefly) and looked and...found lots of freeware available. Do you have a suggestion for which to use?

I say again...thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great! I&#8217;ve been tempted by Linux before. This is going to push me over the edge. And thanks for the tip/warning on burning. I&#8217;d have just blithely used Nero.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t sure what you meant by an ISO burning software. Went out (briefly) and looked and&#8230;found lots of freeware available. Do you have a suggestion for which to use?</p>
<p>I say again&#8230;thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: TechSlave</title>
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		<dc:creator>TechSlave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 06:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane,

Glad ou got so much help earlier already. But I second the notion of a Linux live disk. It can make a huge difference in determining the source of a problem - hardware or soft, and tends to make itself known as a tool in the pocket of most desktop and IT support personnel. 
If you run into problems with it, don&#039;t hesitate to shout out to the community either. Ubuntu&#039;s forums, as well as tons of others, are pretty heavily populated with helpfuls. Not to mention all those helpfuls already in your circle!

One thing to note with burning a live CD from a disk is you do need an ISO-burning program, and you really want to burn at a lower speed to reduce the chance of a &#039;bad&#039; live CD - an experience I endured the hard way, unfortunately. 

Once you get a Linux up and running, you&#039;ll want to head for command line, unless you immediately see responses/activity from your USB devices.
Favorite commands are: lsusb
It&#039;ll dump out a bunch of listings like these, hopefully:
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 005 Device 003: ID 046d:c526 Logitech, Inc.

Alternate methods to finding USB&#039;s active/inactive will be found someplace like: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107650 though it is mainly about &#039;path&#039; to a USB, there are some alternate tricks to it.

But most importantly, enjoy Hell&#039;s Kitchen and well deserved sleep!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane,</p>
<p>Glad ou got so much help earlier already. But I second the notion of a Linux live disk. It can make a huge difference in determining the source of a problem &#8211; hardware or soft, and tends to make itself known as a tool in the pocket of most desktop and IT support personnel.<br />
If you run into problems with it, don&#8217;t hesitate to shout out to the community either. Ubuntu&#8217;s forums, as well as tons of others, are pretty heavily populated with helpfuls. Not to mention all those helpfuls already in your circle!</p>
<p>One thing to note with burning a live CD from a disk is you do need an ISO-burning program, and you really want to burn at a lower speed to reduce the chance of a &#8216;bad&#8217; live CD &#8211; an experience I endured the hard way, unfortunately. </p>
<p>Once you get a Linux up and running, you&#8217;ll want to head for command line, unless you immediately see responses/activity from your USB devices.<br />
Favorite commands are: lsusb<br />
It&#8217;ll dump out a bunch of listings like these, hopefully:<br />
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub<br />
Bus 005 Device 003: ID 046d:c526 Logitech, Inc.</p>
<p>Alternate methods to finding USB&#8217;s active/inactive will be found someplace like: <a href="http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107650" rel="nofollow">http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107650</a> though it is mainly about &#8216;path&#8217; to a USB, there are some alternate tricks to it.</p>
<p>But most importantly, enjoy Hell&#8217;s Kitchen and well deserved sleep!</p>
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