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Seriously cool fonts

and better pics. Absolutely brilliant examples.

Trajan Pro is another font I really want to be able to use. I knew there was a free version out there…Optimus Princeps. One download site was insisting that it was “plagiarized.” Now…that’s hard on a font based on a two thousand year old carving. However, taking the computer work of someone else is a different matter.

So, I checked out the person responsible for OP, to see if it was someoneĀ  like Roger White, who did the Vivaldi lookalike…just another designer using the same historical inspiration. And I’m telling you, this fellow didn’t need to swipe from anyone. Prepare for hours spent punching links and the back button, and chuckling. This guy does magnificent fonts…hundreds of them…and fabulous little pics showing how they can be used…and all he asks is that you donate to a charity if you use them. Pretty cool.

Anyway…have fun!

Manfred Klein

9 comments to Seriously cool fonts

  • pholy

    I saw Manfred Klein’s name on lots of fonts when I was searching; I basically ignored them because they were marked ‘for personal use only*’ — but no *note anywhere. I’m glad you investigated further to discover his terms for commercial use. That guy is seriously creative, and an interesting bio, too. I’m glad his work is available for all of us.

    On a related note, I have been considering whether the work of someone like Roger White is acceptable. It seems – and I have no way to verify this – that he used the same sources – old PD font catalogs and such-like – as many font designers for the BigName Font Companies. So if he did the work of creating his own font files, worked on all the kerning pairs, and all that stuff – and if it meets our own quality standards (however high or low they may be) – why shouldn’t we use it and give him the credit he asks for? I haven’t made up my own mind, and I speak as one who converts PD works to epub. I can’t afford to buy distribution rights for fonts for which I won’t receive any recompense, but I still want my books to look nice.

    I’m interested in other people’s thoughts on this.

  • I’ve managed to find something for all my needs which are freeware with commercial use allowed, or part of a collection which says commercial use is allowed. The only dicey one is Hanford Script, i.e. the Vivaldi lookalike that Roger White offers. Vivaldi is definitely set up to sell, and I believe they actually bought the right to produce it from the designer (he made it back in the 60’s, I think). I’m thinking that maybe I’m going to set the file up to use it, then just let the buyer download the file from Roger White and then use Sigil to put it into the font folder of the epub file. It’s very easy to do, once the file is set up to receive it.

    Gawd, being legal can be hard in this day and age.

  • Ah, heck…I’ll just use BlackChancery. That one doesn’t seem to have any controversy attached to it. Not as effective as Hanford, but can’t have everything!

  • pholy

    Actually, Black Chancery seems to have a well known lineage – and even Gnu GPL licensed!

    As for Hanford Script, Roger claims 500 hours of work on it, and it seems to be acknowledged as a lower quality Vivaldi by some of the experts at myfonts.com. The fact that it’s been on his own web site for more than 10 years without the Vivaldi owners complaining would seem to lend it some legitimacy, if not any cachet šŸ™‚ I think it’s probably OK for my uses, if I need a cursive someday. It’s maybe a little too thin for most ebook use, considering the lack of contrast with eInk.

  • Interesting wiki article on the topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typeface (see the bottom of the page) evidently typefaces cannot, under US law be copyrighted. The program can be. and the name c/b trademarked, hence the same font visually being made available with different names. So the Hanford s/b okay to use. I’ve got a version of BlackChancery under a different name as well. I thought I’d bought it as a part of a font collection that was for commercial use, but I’m not finding it there.\

    Actually, a bit of digging…BC was designed by a now-deceased German typographer, Emil Rudolf Weiss. I believe the name is the original typeface name, so I don’t think anyone can trademark it, so you see several versions under the same name. The one I have is by Earl Allen and Doug Miles and dates from 1991.

    The fun just never ends!

  • Peter

    You’d probably hate me if I mentioned that Germany has laws specifically protecting copyright on fonts, so I won’t :whistle:

    The Internet is *such* a wonderful tool for causing lawyers aneurysms – what happens if a US citizen downloads a copy of _Gone With The Wind_ from Gutenberg Australia or Gutenberg Canada, where the book is in the public domain? Are they infringing the Mitchell estate’s copyright in the US? Answers in 32 point Vivaldi on the back of a postage stamp.

  • Lynn

    when I saw the graphic on this page http://julianhansen.com/index.php?/alternative-type-finder/ , I couldn’t help but think of your font-quest :devil: .

    I’m going to duck and start running now…

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